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For those of you who watched the CNN docuseries "Black In America", here's the post where you can discuss. I'm sure this one will get colorful. If you missed the series, catch both Wednesday's and last night's installments here. Speak on it...
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[quote comment="151559"]I think that it was not done well at all. I think it just reaffirmed the stereotypes that other races have against black people. They focused on the negativity. There were few positives in that. I think that they could have done more to uplift the black race and done a lot of the positives.[/quote] I SECOND and THIRD!! They did not do this special for Blacks. They did this special so that white people could talk about us as if we are a remote tribe in Africa- uncivilized and savage.
Kim's picture

The amount of comments show

The amount of comments show how much this really affects us... What we need to do is stop looking for the world to define us and define ourselves thru actions and new facts and step up to the new world (i.e. The Panthers, MLK and Malcolm). We have to take ownership. Actions speak louder than words or any docuseries. Our generation has a huge responsibility to shape our range. The question is are we gonna succeed or fail? What matters most a great existance for your children or and iPhone and a Range Rover??? -J
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[quote comment="151632"]I watched some of it. The thing is the people that need to watch this (the hustlers, deadbeat dads and hoodrates)probably do not know what CNN is.... Black people will continue to be stereotyped. There are no specials on "Asian in America or Puerto Rican in America" and that is because Black people are a mystery especially to Whites. They are trying to study us and figure us out like a science project to some shit....we are not all the same. They need to stop trying to put us in a box![/quote] You need to watch National Geographic Channel. You will find out about other nationalities.
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[quote comment="151599"][quote comment="151536"]I really liked the special; however, I think they should have allowed other ethnicities the opportunity to express how they view us. This would allow time to break the stereotypes, and form an open discussion about race in America.[/quote] I agree 100 % w/ you. Also, that dude Martin from the Cosby Show...he needs to shut the hell up![/quote] Who selected him to represent us?
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I watched both parts and had

I watched both parts and had mixed feelings. The thing is the legacy of black Americans is too large of an issue to reconcile in a series. However, it was a start. A start to allowing our stories to be told although many felt the representation was ill it did cover key issues. The thing that I realized watching the film is that if a black person makes any kind of mistake, criminal, then they are that much farther from achieving any degree of success. That is a crime and the biggest lie white Americans have ever spread. To be human is to make mistakes and this system must develop some sort of way to reconcile the issues black men face when they are pushed to sell drugs or protect themselves in gangs. Why does a black man or woman have to work 10 times harder than their white counterparts to achieve half the success. One profound statement was that a black man with a B.A. earns the equivalent of a white man with an AA. Go figure! The issue of race is systemic I could give a damn about a person making a black joke but I care when they short us on wages and lock the black man out of the workplace just because they have a record when they do NOT do the same to the white man with a record. Look at all these laws, from child support to crack sentencing-- everything is set up to continuously punish black men for bad choices in manner in which they can NEVER forge ahead or overcome unless they damn near work themselves to death or become a rapper!!! As for black women well there has been a an agenda against her since she stepped foot off the slave ship- a campaign to relegate her beauty to the bottom of the hierarchy, to dismiss her talents, consider the constant disregard of black women's beauty, accomplishments and her very presence in this world. Look at the whole HIV thing as if sisters are around here sleeping with all kinds of men without protection yeah right!! Sistas are lonely. Sistas rarely every have sex when they are single. If more black men where alive, out of jail, able to find work, and free of self hatred (thats right, women who are as darks as you are beautiful too, even further black man you are beautiful) then sistas would be in married monogamous relationships not constantly searching for love and getting a one night stand full of HIV. The system is set up in a way that does not allow our men to protect us, to want us, to become prosperous with us. We have been here, enslaved in some form since the 1600s. 300 years of oppression, 100 years of progress.... 200 more to go. So our great, great, great, grandchildren will finally be allowed to live the lives that GOD intended for all of human kind. No other people have been dehumanized in the way black Americans have. We must continue to have these discussions and actively work for change and equity.
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[quote comment="151795"]The

[quote comment="151795"]The series has been an overhyped stereotypical mess. Could it hurt CNN to display the brighter side to who we are? How about black bloggers who are making positive change? Black women business owners? Black men who love and support their wives? Black men who are making a difference in their communities? Black people who've have traveled to Africa? Black people who are teachers, nurses, healers? Black people who do yoga? Black people who are travel agents? Give me something more than we're dying from AIDS and that we are having babies out of wedlock. I demand more. Must we be featured as so predictable and one-dimensional? Gawd.[/quote] They did show a black woman business woman. they showed a whole family of 300 people who stick together. The piece on the Rands was amazing. No one said anything about that. They showed a family where all 3 of their children were going to college. They showed a black surgeon who was trying to help the youth. I'm wondering if anyone actually watched the show or was ya'll just looking for what ya'll wanted to hear.
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To FabLife2008...please

To FabLife2008...please educate yourself....I get sick of afro-caribbeans and black americans getting all hyped about africa should have come to save them, sold them and the stupid list goes on. What happened wasn't right, but please don't hate on africans who move abroad now and try to make a better life for themselves...it isn't like thesame opportunities aren't there for you to utilise. For one Africa is a continent, you try to mobilize a country let alone a continent, also if you have any sense you will realise we also had to deal with serious repression that only ended less than 50yrs ago in our own lands. For god's sake aparthied in south-africa only ended in the 80's, let's not even get started on that state the english, french, dutch and american's left their colonies.
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I watched both shows, niether

I watched both shows, niether show informed me of anything I didn't know already. What I didn't like is no one was allowed to say wht impact or part they think society plays in there situations. I've also found that some people like it at the bottom because its familiar and thier scared, and they don't even know thier scared they can't even name the thing tht pleagues them (which is fear). We still have black people who are scared of white people. They feel like whats the point, they own everything, they are the heads of the state...I'll just take what I can get. Martin is dead, so is Malcom, and Jesse is a waste. We're waiting on some one to save us, we need to save ourselves. Coalitions and Alliances are formed and growing everyday. We should find one.
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[quote comment="151903"]As a

[quote comment="151903"]As a African man from Liberian myself, i feel that most of those issues were not applicable to ALL blacks in America. There are black people in this country from several different cultures. Most of those issues ie: fatherhood, education, and incarceration are issues facing the mostly the Black American community and not ALL black people. Most black Africans and Hispanics come to this country and dont have problems with the issues raised on the documentary last night[/quote] Very true. My family are immigrants from St.Kitts in the Eastern Caribbean and these issues did not apply to me as well. Black Americans need to stop blaming the "man" and wake up. Education is key in this country and around the world. Women need to stop laying down with random men and having babies they know they can not take care of. Fathers need to stop up, rather than walking away and then having another unwanted child with another random women. A lot of this poverty stems from having too many mouths to feed. When you have 4 kids and no father around, working dead ends job(s), barely a high school education, how can you make time for school to better yourself? In this case, a parent needs to motivate their children that they need education so they won't end up like their parent. I applaud all these immigrants who come here and make America work for them especially Asians. I.E. look at how the Koreans are running the black hair care market? Black people we need to wake up and make a change for the betterment of OUR FUTURE!!!!
Ava's picture

Once again, Black people are

Once again, Black people are problems with problems. I am a happily, married, educated Black woman, and I am happy. No one on that program was at peace with themselves, each other, and/or their environment. I should have watched a Good Times marathon.
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[quote comment="151565"]WHY

[quote comment="151565"]WHY ARE WE ALWAYS THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION? WHITE PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE SAME THINGS..WHAT MAKES US SO SERIOUS THAT IT HAS TO BE SERIES DONE SPECIFICALLY ON US? ACTUALLY ALL ETHNICITIES HAVE SOME TYPE OF STRUGGLE.MANY FOLKS HAVE THE PROBLEMS THEY HAVE BECAUSE OF THE CHOICES THEY MADE...IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN![/quote] White people and other races/ethnicites/cultures do go through the struggle. I believe not necessarily to the same extent. What makes it so serious is that I know for a fact I am still discriminated against based on race. I am a doctoral candidate in clinical psyspychology. I work hard, I am diligent and I am a great leader. My lesser qualified and lesser educated counterparts (who are white) are often times looked upon more favorably than myself. People in stores stop and stair for some strange reason especially when I spend a large sum of money. I have made many well thought intelligent choice and am still frowned upon and discriminated against at school, work, internships, and many aspects of my everyday life. A good example is people prefer my hair when it is flat ironed opposed to when it is platted in the most beautiful and neat french braids or individuals ever. Racism is out there and very much alive. I beleive most of us have been conditioned since birth to be unaware of it regardless of how salient it is. I just ask you to look at the world around you a little different and continue to ask othes to chose their choses more wisely as you are in your post.Because you are right. Our choices heavily impact our life as do the discrimination and other types of injustice.
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That 'documentary' added

That 'documentary' added nothing to the discussion of what it is like to be black in america or any solutions to what is ailing parts of our community. It was depressing and stereotypical. I live in Harlem and I CAN find fresh produce 5 blocks from my house. I'm single, without AIDS, I have a great job and I meet fabulous, intelligent and well-cultured black men everyday. And see them everyday in my 'hood.' Does the black community have issues, yes! But its not as depressing as CNN made us out to be. What they showed was only a tiny piece of the whole puzzle. Blacks in America have come a long way. We define what it is to be America and strive for the dream everyday. And that's what you didn't see in that mess they put together. I think I will be watching MSNBC from now on. And you know white folks are going to use that as their guide. You know it.
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Ey...I thought it was going

Ey...I thought it was going to get deeper~ It was surface as usual.
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[quote comment="151536"]I really liked the special; however, I think they should have allowed other ethnicities the opportunity to express how they view us. This would allow time to break the stereotypes, and form an open discussion about race in America.[/quote] That is an excellent suggestion. I enjoyed the programs both night. It enhances my desire to give back/mentor or get involved because I have been in a bubble about some issues in our community. The "Black Women and AIDS" segment scared the crap out of me (in a good way).
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[quote comment="152787"][quote comment="151778"]It's interesting that some of us got the premise and others didn't. This show was not for Black people who know whats's going on in our communities. It was for whites, jews, asians, etc. And also blacks who don't know or have forgotten. Let's keep it real a lot of black folk aren't doing well. The majority are living day to day. For every 40 anyone can give me who are doing great I can give you 40,000 that aren't. My second point, to all the people who are complaing about they didn't show the positives. We know there are some of us that are doing well and some were shown but the majority are struggling. All the radio and internet personalities should pool their money and do a documentary about the positives and ask BET or TVONE to air it. Naw we too busy talking about who dating, lost their money, who is beefing or who got on a wack outfit! I don't hear a lot of positives when I go on these websites or listen to these radio staions. I'm tired of us complainng when somebody else does a story about us that wasn't what we expected. Well push for these people that we are making rich to do a "fair" interpretation of wh we are instead of bitching about what CNN did. We should start holding us accountable and stop depending on others to do it for us. This was all about letting people understand where we are coming from and some of the things that we ahve working against us from day one that most races don't have to deal with. It's easy for us to be angry at someone for pointing at our flaws. What i'm most upset about is that there are no easy answers. We can only fix our situation one person at a time. So instead of complaing,all of us that are doing well let's go grab a person who isn't and uplift him/her.[/quote] I absolutely agree.. ive been saying this for years. why is it that these celebs don't put thier money together and do something constructive?[/quote] I also agree with what you are saying, but at the same time even if every celeb. decided to donate money to help those less fortunate, we will continue to have these same problems. Why can't the Gov. also help? They help every other country and not to even mention the senseless war that far too much money is going to. Why can't the Gov. help their own people to better themselves? We need to stop pointing fingers at who should or shouldn’t help fix this. There must be a collaborative effort between everyone to solve these problems.
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[quote comment="152645"]I watched the series on black women and was surprised…pleasantly surprised. I thought it was produced very, very well. I think they covered every angle…not just the bad. You have to consider that all of the experts speaking on the areas that are not so pleasant were very successful black people. If I were a kid now, with any ambition, I’d decide to want to be the woman doing the interviewing or the head of a college, or the many doctors featured. I wouldn’t feel hopeless after viewing Black In America. We also have choices and I would choose to not want to be the kid who gets shot and ends up paralyzed. I think little Eric will feel a lot of motivation to get out of poverty and do as well in school as possible. I love how they tied everything together with the Rand family because that’s black in america. We’ve got good and bad and many, many stories to tell.[/quote] We as black people know about the issues going on aroun There was absolutely nothing surprising about this bias, one-sided documentary done on African American people in America. CNN made a mockery of black people. It seemed that almost every successful black person (beside the expects) had some type of issue. They showed educated, independent black women. What was the issue? They could not find a man because majority of our black brothers are in prison. What do these educated black women have to do? Date outside of their race. I know that there are a large number of black brothers in prison, but you mean to tell me that there is such a shortage of positive, successful black man that sisters have to switch over? I don’t knock anyone who chooses to date outside of his or her race, but CNN could have done better than that. Yes, it’s challenging as a successful black women to find a compatible mate who is not intimidated by your success, but there are plenty examples in America of educated African American sisters who are successful and married to a successful man. Why leave that part out? This was one of many issues that made me want to change the channel. Let’s elaborate on the children comment. You stated, “If you were a kid with any ambition you would decide to want to be the woman doing the interviewing or the head of a college, or the many doctors featured”. My question to you is: what do you do if you were a child who had no ambition or hopes for the future? A child whose confused about life and live in an environment where dealing drugs and stealing was the thing to do. If that child was watching this documentary, do you honestly think this child would focus on the very little positive or would he relate more to what he know and see around him? I did not here CNN speaking on how we as society should began addressing the on-going issue of poverty, homelessness, delinquency, which are all associated with black people. Instead we should HOPE! Hope what? The hope that one-day, they can stop trying to raise our awareness on issues we already know exist. Instead, they need to tell and show us how we can began helping people to break these vicious cycles.
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[quote comment="151778"]It's

[quote comment="151778"]It's interesting that some of us got the premise and others didn't. This show was not for Black people who know whats's going on in our communities. It was for whites, jews, asians, etc. And also blacks who don't know or have forgotten. Let's keep it real a lot of black folk aren't doing well. The majority are living day to day. For every 40 anyone can give me who are doing great I can give you 40,000 that aren't. My second point, to all the people who are complaing about they didn't show the positives. We know there are some of us that are doing well and some were shown but the majority are struggling. All the radio and internet personalities should pool their money and do a documentary about the positives and ask BET or TVONE to air it. Naw we too busy talking about who dating, lost their money, who is beefing or who got on a wack outfit! I don't hear a lot of positives when I go on these websites or listen to these radio staions. I'm tired of us complainng when somebody else does a story about us that wasn't what we expected. Well push for these people that we are making rich to do a "fair" interpretation of wh we are instead of bitching about what CNN did. We should start holding us accountable and stop depending on others to do it for us. This was all about letting people understand where we are coming from and some of the things that we ahve working against us from day one that most races don't have to deal with. It's easy for us to be angry at someone for pointing at our flaws. What i'm most upset about is that there are no easy answers. We can only fix our situation one person at a time. So instead of complaing,all of us that are doing well let's go grab a person who isn't and uplift him/her.[/quote] I absolutely agree.. ive been saying this for years. why is it that these celebs don't put thier money together and do something constructive?
katinaz's picture

And more power to Spike Lee

And more power to Spike Lee for still NOT conforming, even after all of these years! Gotta love it!!
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Although I didn't agree with

Although I didn't agree with all that was said/depicted about last night's segment about blk men, it STILL was something that I've never seen on tv & I'm happy that there were some measures (some half-assed) to shed light on Blacks. We as Blacks like to ignore alot of issues within our own community such as interracism. Michael Eric Dyson admitted that he & his brother's lives may be totally different b/c of his lighter skin tone. I would have loved to see an episode dedicated to blacks dating outside their race. I dont care if it is 2008, interracial dating is still uncomfortable. What I ultimately received from the series on Blk women was that a black woman will make a way out of no way to support her family. My mother is a true testament to that. We're survivors. Keep on surviving :-)
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[quote comment="151562"]I

[quote comment="151562"]I thought it was okay. However, I felt that they had to bring the black republican guy (can't remember his name. the military man from the Cosby show) in order to almost apologize to whites, or make them feel comfortable. It's not about them or anyone being comfortable, it should have been about reporting what was really going down. I do understand his point to a certain extent, we cannot place all the blame for our problems on whites, (Can't believe I of all people actually said that.) but to make it seem that everything is our fault and we need to just change is ridiculous. America's system of government is based on racism and the suppression of blacks!!! The bottom line is that along with a change in blacks, a change is needed in our laws and government. Just 300 years ago this country was founded and supported on the backs of enslaved, oppressed Africans. Slavery ended less than 200 years ago, and sharecropping came after that. Blacks did not even become equal citizens in theory until the past 50-60 years. It would be unrealistic to believe that our country has done as well as it could as far as making the country fair and equal for all races.[/quote] --WOW, A INTELLIGENT VIEWPOINT, REFRESHING!
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I felt that this documentary

I felt that this documentary was aired to start propraganda in society. I hate the fact that they are stereotyping all African American as the same. This was a very tasteless choice by CNN. There are millions of successful African Americans that are positive in society and aren't meeting the devastating statistics.Not all of us are on welfare, go to prison, drop out of school, or abandon or children. It is such a coincidence that all this "Black this and Black that" is going around now that Presidential hopeful Barack Obama is a running mate. I feel that they are basically trying to plant a seed into society heads. We are POWERFUL ; WE are STRONG; WE ar ONE.
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Yes, choice is your own

Yes, choice is your own personal right. The show had good points as well as bad I agree. My thing is why don't we focus on the positive as much as we focus on the negative. It is the negative images that are entering the children heads. I am not saying that all children will fall subject to it...which goes back to my point of there are a lot of positive succesfull black people out in the world. I am not referring to the kids who will see the negative and choose the good. I an referring to the ones who feels like the negative is all there is because of their surroundings and the things that are going on in their lives. Seeing the images of how blacks are looked at or "supposed" to act is not reinforcing their motivation. We are strong people and a lot of us are successful and choose the right path. All I am saying is when is that side of us going to get some light? Can we shine our light on the world? Everyone race has their good and their bad. Can our light shine on the good some time?
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I watched the series on black

I watched the series on black women and was surprised…pleasantly surprised. I thought it was produced very, very well. I think they covered every angle…not just the bad. You have to consider that all of the experts speaking on the areas that are not so pleasant were very successful black people. If I were a kid now, with any ambition, I’d decide to want to be the woman doing the interviewing or the head of a college, or the many doctors featured. I wouldn’t feel hopeless after viewing Black In America. We also have choices and I would choose to not want to be the kid who gets shot and ends up paralyzed. I think little Eric will feel a lot of motivation to get out of poverty and do as well in school as possible. I love how they tied everything together with the Rand family because that’s black in america. We’ve got good and bad and many, many stories to tell.
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When we have a documentary

When we have a documentary showing the positive things that black people do? This show focused mostly on the negative aspect which is what we already see from the media on a daily basis. Show me the great things my people are doing in this country. The ones who have their own business, the mother that had kids out of wedlock but went to school and was able to provide a great life for her and her kids. What about the fathers that are there for their kids and taking care of them even if they are not with the mother. They did show fathers marrying their baby's mother, which was a good thing. I mean give our children something to look up to instead of constantly filling their heads with what we see everyday on tv and in some of our daily lives. Can we show them that they can get out of the hood and make it no matter what their situation is. Let's do better!
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[quote comment="151818"]QUESTION: If black women are graduating at much higher rates than black males (2/3rds) why are we still viewed "POOR (THEREFORE GOLDDIGGING), LOUD-MOUTH, NECK ROLLING, ATTITUDE HAVING BITCHES." We are viewed as "the problem" by SOME of our own men. Surely every or most women cannot be this way...surely every COLLEGE EDUCATED blk woman cannot be this way. BOTTOM LINE: Reality is not about facts...its about perception, which is why I feel CNNs special was more devisive than helpful.[/quote] Everyone that is poor is not a golddigger!! One women they showed had 5 children and two jobs and she was not looking for any man to help out with her problems. She also admitted that she took part in causing her problems. Did you see when they mentioned Whoopi Goldberg. She was on welfare at one point but she worked her way out of it on her own and she is VERY well respected. So, even when they showed poor black women if you looked beneath the surface of their situation these women were very strong, loving and talented and I think that is the problem. I think everyone else is looking on the surface at our lives and not looking at the people involved for who they really are. Being poor says nothing about your character and that is a bad stereotype to believe in. Also, there were two well spoken and very successful women that they showed who were not angry, loud or bitchy at all.
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[quote comment="151680"][quote comment="151650"]I tried....lord i tried to watch this mess....even tried again when it came on the second time last night b/c i wasn't totally focused the first time....still the same outcome. flippin back and forth. it was pissin me off. then dude from strickly business--yea, yeah, the Cosby show too (maybe that is y he was 'special' enough to be apart of this series since he was on one of the few positive black shows)--seemed like he was still in character from that movie b/c that was how he was actin in last nights series. i wish next week they run the same kinda show but call it 'whites at home' and show the ALARMING welfare, out of wedlock families, drop out rates in utah, and trailor park white ppl statistics so that can really blow y'all minds. blacks are not leading in every category like they'd want u to think.[/quote] That is so true. Of course they don't like to acknowledge those facts because it's about them and they try to act like their trailor park trash dont exsist. We all seen Jim-bob and his aunt/wife amy sue in walmart the first of the month. Who white people think they fooling?[/quote] White people definitely have problems but they still have an advantage. It doesn't matter if a white person grew up in a trailor because he can put on a suit and go to a job interview and still be preferred because of his skin color. Therefore, their problems aren't of the same magnitude as ours because they don't have to go to the same lengths to prove themselves no matter what their background is.
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[quote comment="151674"]I AM

[quote comment="151674"]I AM REALLY SICK OF CNN AND EVERYBODY ELSE SHEDDING A LIGHT ON ALL THE NEGATIVES OF THE BLACK COMMUNITIES. WHAT ABOUT THE POSITIVES. I WANT TO SEE A SHOW WITH ALL THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT BLACK AMERICA. I SEE CHANGE. SHOW MEN LIKE MY FIANCE A YOUNG 26 YEAR OLD BLACK MAN MAKING THE 100 THOUSAND A YEAR WORKING IN MANAGEMENT , NEVER BEEN TO JAIL, HAS THE GOLD TEETH, WEAR THE BAGGY PANTS, AND STILL VERY SUCCESSFUL, HIS BEST FRIENDS FROM HIGH SCHOOL ARE TEACHERS, ONES A LAWYER AND WE HAVE A DOCTOR. WHY DON'T THEY SHOW MEN LIKE THIS WHO STRIVED TO DO RIGHT. WHO HELPED EACH OTHER DO THE RIGHT THING. WHO KEPT EACH OTHER IN LINE. RARELY DO YOU SEE A GROUP OF BLACK MEN AND FIVE HAVE MASTERS DEGREES AND THEY COME FROM SAME NEIGHBORHOOD GREW UP UNDER THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES. I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER STORIES OUT THERE LIKE THIS. IT JUST MADE ME SO MAD THIS SPECIAL ON BLACK AMERICA DIDNOT SHOW ANY OF OUR SUCCESSES THEY JUST SHOWED US IN A BAD WAY. IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE MY SUCCESS IN CRAZY WORLD MEANS NOTHING.[/quote] They did show the success of black women and they did it in a way that actually made the black men look bad. They talked about how there are way more black women with college degrees and with their own money than black men so they should be the ones up in arms about the REAL discrepancies that exist between black males and females. Also, they showed black men that were successful and that had families and good lives. However, the ISSUE is that they are in the minority and that is a problem. It would do all of us a disservice if we did not look at or portray the problems in the black community. Think about it. White people really want to believe that we are the cause of all of our problems and that they have no responsibility in all of this but they need to know that there are problems that are systemic and that need to be addressed.
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The series was eye-openning,

The series was eye-openning, it aired our dirty laundry for everyone to see. The question is what are we going to do about it. We must make changes, times are changing and we are getting left behind. Make a resolution today to make one change, even if it is a small one. Fathers talk to your sons, mothers talk to your daughters.
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[quote comment="151607"]Overall I enjoyed the series, but realized that it really wasn't for us. I guess it was just to give outsiders an inside peek. I just hate that there are so many sponsor times restraints, because there are so many issues that they could really delve into, but don't. Like the absent father segment. I had SOOOO many issues with that couple. First the dude was giving lip service to the camera, he wasn't TRYING to be there for that child. The mother - living at home w/ her parents, now pregnant w/ twins by another dude when this child just turned ONE. WTF?? This is the stereotypcial female that so many dudes and society want to judge all of us by. But on the show they just throw it all out there go to commercial and move on. I would rather them discuss that - show a flip side where there father is trying and the mother is out working and grinding - let the outsiders know that the couple was not representative of all single mothers and wayward fathers.[/quote] They did show a good black father at the same time that they showed the bad one. They showed a father who was married with two kids and had sacrificed his good job for a more secure job so that he wouldn't get laid off. He demonstrated clearly that he loved his kids and will be there for them till the end.
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[quote comment="152295"][quote comment="152207"]Well you know the shows were not directed at us and yes I believe they chose to do something like this now because we are about to have a black president. The people they choose to have speak out for the black community for the most part were not good representations. I was very disappointed in that regard. This should have been a show that went on for more than 2 hours over 2 days. A lot of people are giving cudos to Soledad for her efforts in making these show happen. Took her a year and the interviews lasted at least 3 hours and we only saw maybe 1-3 minutes for each person so we are missing out on a lot more info from those folks. Yes, the darkness and lightness of your skin as a black person does have an effect on how you are treated whether people want to admit it or not. No way would Obama even get seriously considered if he was his wife's complexion and we all need be to be really honest about that one. I wish the show would have brought about a solution segment. What can we all do to make things betters in these communities. How about we have so many well to do black people that if we just step back out of our own lives and reach out to some people in need, we would not have all these ills that cover so many of our neighbors. Build that grocery store so people don't have to travel an hour one way to get food. Put some medical facilities in place for people to be able to get screenings and assistance when needed. The money is there within our people. Stop being so selfish and dig deep in your pockets and make it happen![/quote] I just want to say one good thing about this show is it is making us think. Black people need to view themselves differently. Even if we don't fit into one of the categories that was presented on the show, we know someone who does. My Brother is a high school drop out who has did some time for dealing drugs, so it made me think of ways I can help him and his children so they don't become another number on the statistics chart.[/quote] Shamrock, if that show did that - then I must say it served its purpose. Be Blessed!
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[quote comment="152118"][quote comment="151616"]Fist in MD....!! suckas! the series was pointless...old news...lets do something about it instead of talking about it. CNN just tryin to get ratings..they dont care about blacks in America...Stop shucking and jiving for the man..get out and do something...[/quote] television stations exist to get ratings, especially in light of the fact that these stations are corporate owned as are the majority of newspapers. why should CNN 'care' about the black community!? They are not responsibile for us.[/quote] Exactly! They are a news station-a business. It is up to us to care about us enough to work on our problems.
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[quote comment="151659"][quote comment="151650"]I tried....lord i tried to watch this mess....even tried again when it came on the second time last night b/c i wasn't totally focused the first time....still the same outcome. flippin back and forth. it was pissin me off. then dude from strickly business--yea, yeah, the Cosby show too (maybe that is y he was 'special' enough to be apart of this series since he was on one of the few positive black shows)--seemed like he was still in character from that movie b/c that was how he was actin in last nights series. i wish next week they run the same kinda show but call it 'whites at home' and show the ALARMING welfare, out of wedlock families, drop out rates in utah, and trailor park white ppl statistics so that can really blow y'all minds. blacks are not leading in every category like they'd want u to think.[/quote] You know white people don't want to think of themselves like that, but you right, because I always wondered how in statistics blacks are lead in everything.[/quote] I don't think we lead in everything statistically, however, it gets alarming because often a greater proportion of our[quote comment="152079"]I watched the documentary last night I missed the first installment of Being Black in America Women and the Family. So I can only speak from last nights viewing, I felt as thou there was no resolution once again another reporter pointing out the proverty stricken neighborhoods and lack of fathers, they stated how statistics say they wont hire black men or even felons but they didnt show us how to get around that how to make the changes that need to be made to erase these stereotypes of black men being lazy, unapproriatly dressed etc. I was glad they highlighted some men out there who are working and being fathers to their children, but they did not give you resolution to the problems we face as African American communties and our people and to me that was just once again pouring salt on a wound that is so deep and painful that we cannot get enough time to heal. I am not making excuses for black people because we do have some people that just dont give a ****, but at the same time we have those kids who want to get out those men and women who want to stop the cycle and yet we have no one pointing us in the right direction. They blame society, rap, and eveyrday life so how do we change those things?? Do a documentary on that and I will be more than happy to TIVO that and learn from that instead of watching this nonsense that just once again portrayed our people as hopeless!! Basically help our plight not justify it!!![/quote] I think the whole point is not for us to look to CNN or Soledad O'Brien to find the solutions to our problems. It was for us to think about what we are going to do to change our situations. I think this is the very heart of the problem- we have to stop expecting and wanting other people to fix it for us-after all, if they were going to do that, they would have by now.
Kimmy's picture

Ok....I know I can write 10

Ok....I know I can write 10 pages on this topic. While I think the "Black in America" segment was informative to many---it wasn't so much to me. I'm well informed with the many issues plaging the black community. So....a reideration of those issues did me no good. I honestly couldn't sleep last night after watching the segment, because I was so sadden by the desterbing statistics that were put out for the world to see. Many of the segment just reinforced many of the stereotypical dagma that plagues society. The guy that showed no lover for his child...and where the mother lived with her parents and was pregnant with twins from another "baby-daddy"----really sadden me. I think the take-away that others will get from this segment is the "See I told you so" those blacks are a bunch of animals feeling. I could be wrong but that's my personal feeling. Both nights highlighted:drug abuse,crime,disease,povery,uneducation...etc. The success of those who overcame these challenges were displayed at bare minimum. I agree with Chaka to the fullest---yes it's been history of slavery and ill will. But you know what...if the Jews could do it---why can't we? The shackles have been removed from our feet and placed on our minds--that's why!!!! Until we free our minds.....nothing will change. Another part of the segment with Michael Dyson and his brother was also sad. But some of it was reality. When Michael said he was treated with high preference in comparison to his brother growing up b/c he was lighter in skin color----SAID A MOUTHFUL! Self-Hate People....it's killing the community badly. If we don't except the darker skin brothers and sisters in our own community....what make you think Corp. America will accept them? It was clear with the few successful ones we saw on the show----they were high yellow in complexion...take CNN for example. Solidad and the other black Journalist.....all fareskin. All-in-All, I wished CNN was a little bit more balanced in what they were expressing. Does anyone know there true intent for the documentary? I'm trying to figure it out!!!
Mahogany's picture

When they had the

When they had the superintendent with kids that went to all white schools, I just aot died. you are the superintendent, or assistant of a segregated school like Central(I saw the 40 yars later HBO special) and you are talking about your kids were surrounded by Blacks and whites. What Blacks, you andyour wife? And they all had white women, because they were framed to a Erocentric standard of beauty, because they probably heard Black peope being put down and whites being lifted up. The Black man segment speaks to why there are so many Black women, educated and single.It is staggering, if they aren't in jail, they think Black women are so ugly ike Young Berg's wack self, that they have to find a white woman. C'mon now. It was tight, but it was right. Good job Soledad
tj's picture

I believe that the

I believe that the documentary was some what biased in that the producers did not depict a black father who, although may not have a romantic relationship with the mother, is there for the child...supporting the his daughter or son and making sure that he provides for them, financially and emotionally. The families that they interviewed were families who although went through hard times, now both parents are making 6 figure salaries. They went from one end of the spectrum to the other. The statistics were informative however, I would've liked for them to touch on other subjects and aspects within our community and families.
J's picture

I agree with everyone that

I agree with everyone that pointed out that the Black Man episode was much more cohesive than the Black Woman and Family. It actually deeply saddened me that the Black Woman part was so poorly put together because I feel as though our story is often overlooked or portrayed negatively. (This was also evidenced by the BET Hip Hop vs. America special part 3 which was supposed to focus on Black women and somehow got redirected to the debate about rapper's accountability to the black community and not so much on black women.) Last night's Black Man started off incredibly slow and I was almost tempted to turn it off because they were making it a history lesson rather than showing the contemporary Black American situation but I think it came together in the end. Was it without its flaws? Absolutely not. I think that it would have faired better if people of other ethnicities were interviewed as someone suggested, I think it would have been better if it were a longer series, if they interviewed more than 3 or 4 people...there were just so many more ways to make that piece more exciting and informative. In fact, as a Black person, it did absolutely nothing for me. I think that if I were not Black and knew very little of Black culture, this may have shed some light. As for what Natasha and other brought up about the show not highlighting enough positives, I can see that argument. The show in its entirety could have been more balanced, shown more positives, but the reality is that for all of our successes, the disparities are grave in our community. It's not pleasant to air our dirty laundry on national television but it needs to be done. We need to bring back shame in particular, because shame will move people out of a place of complacency and into a place of motivation. And as controversial as my statement may be, I don't think that Soledad O'Brien did a good job and I wholeheartedly believe that this is because she is not a Black woman. Her mother being a Black Cuban hardly qualifies her to be an authority on the Black race. I would venture to guess by her name alone (Soledad) that her mother probably raised her more on the Latin side than the Black side. I have to wonder how this piece may have turned out if a Black journalist would have anchored this docuseries.
Liz's picture

I agree with the sensible and

I agree with the sensible and intellectual comments like Chaka and others. The so-called CNN Special was stereotypical of what society thinks about "blacks/african americans". Nothing was profound except that fact that black men with no criminal background has the same chances as a white man with criminal background of getting a job. I just wish we would stop talking about the state of black america and actually do something to change it. These forums where people get on TV and talk about blacks and the disparities are pointless if nothing comes from it. Talk is cheap, when no action is put behind it. We need EDUCATION! In order to change our status now we need to make sure that are the younger generation realize that knowledge is more valuable than money. It blows my mind that the many resources that are handed to our community are slapped away by our ignorance to want to continue to be the "HAVE-NOTS". We are better than this...EDUCATION IS KEY. I'm too pissed to to write now....
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[quote comment="151562"]I

[quote comment="151562"]I thought it was okay. However, I felt that they had to bring the black republican guy (can't remember his name. the military man from the Cosby show) in order to almost apologize to whites, or make them feel comfortable. It's not about them or anyone being comfortable, it should have been about reporting what was really going down. I do understand his point to a certain extent, we cannot place all the blame for our problems on whites, (Can't believe I of all people actually said that.) but to make it seem that everything is our fault and we need to just change is ridiculous. America's system of government is based on racism and the suppression of blacks!!! The bottom line is that along with a change in blacks, a change is needed in our laws and government. Just 300 years ago this country was founded and supported on the backs of enslaved, oppressed Africans. Slavery ended less than 200 years ago, and sharecropping came after that. Blacks did not even become equal citizens in theory until the past 50-60 years. It would be unrealistic to believe that our country has done as well as it could as far as making the country fair and equal for all races.[/quote] Les, I thought I was the only one who felt that way about that guy. What ticks me off, people like him who likely grew up in a two parent home, in a pretty good neighborhood, has no clue about what our people in the inner city are dealing with. It's easy to say to stay out of jail, just don't sell crack when you haven't been in that environment. Some of his points were valid, but don't just make out that racism dosen't contribute to our issues. I am very curious to know if he's even reached out to black people in need or did he just take the time to do a CNN special for a spotlight. If you are the passionate, get off your butt and reach out. He aggravated me soooo much!
Foxy's picture

Did this broadcast make you

Did this broadcast make you want to be more active? Honestly, I can't say yes.
Lacey's picture

I want to comment on the

I want to comment on the black women with college degrees. I hear from so many men that when black women get their degree alot of them change their requirements in mates. There is nothing wrong with that. Most educated women often look over the brothas that are on the come up. How soon did do they forget their struggle to get where they are. The brotha has to already has an education or more than she has. It is sad that these women leave out the guys who are trying to make something of themselves. Women who do that wind up being alone or passing up a guy with a great potential. I heard so many men complain that women with an education would not give the time of day because they didnt have their degree already. I think women should look at the possibliities instead of automatically assuming a brotha will not have be anything because he does not have a degree. Brotha feel the more educated some black women the more attitude and drama that comes along being with them. Again not all but there are black men who feel that way and have not gave on being sistas. Sistas are not totally to blame for these actions but need to look within selves and look all the possibilities of a black man. I read so many comments and I do believe the black women are stereotyped as being single and poor. We as black women do need to make better choices when selecting a mate and not just someone to sleep with. It needs to be more respect for our bodies and not to be used as a piece of meat by men. Although this happens in every race but black women have been labeled as promiscous. If we demand respect we will get respect. Try to be in more relationships that are meaningful and look deep into a person before calling yourself in love. Black women are stronger than what society shows and we need to keep having inner strength. I know there may be people who dont like what I have said but it what I see and hear from black men. They still love us and need us. We are the backbone.
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Oops...Soledad* not Soleil

Oops...Soledad* not Soleil
Lacey's picture

personally i felt the

personally i felt the documentary was seriously UNBALANCED! and why were the camera crews ALWAYS around when folks are being evicted! whats good with that. there are plenty of topics that should of been touched. and they didn't. CNN IS OWNED AND RAN BY "THE FOLKS"......i like me some soledad but i think ol girl was SERIOUSLY editted.
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[quote comment="151801"][quote comment="151753"](Get ready because I am going to say things you don't want to hear) The rest of world still doesn't understand why Black Americans haven't "figured it out." That's one reason why they are so fascinated with us. Jews will tell you that the Germans slaughtered millions of them and ran them out of Europe just 60 years ago. They came to America and were treated badly by the white establishment. As a community, they focused on justice, faith and education. Now, they are wealthiest minority in the USA. I know wealthy Haitians, Bahamians and Africans who live here, but won't allow their children to interact with American black children. A coworker from an impoverished country where there's constant war and famine told me once that, "Black Americans are born with all the resources in the world and they still behave like animals. They are lazy, violent and only complain." I wanted to slap her, but she had valid points. Foreign Blacks seem to be gaining ground in this country much faster than us. I have to read publications like Black Enterprise for inspiration these days because all you see are negative images of us on the news. What's troubling is there are everyday American Blacks (like me and you) who are doing amazing things in this country and no one knows a damn thing about it because it gets overshadowed by rappers acting like fools or O.J. Simpson. No wonder people are afraid of us. We need to do everything within reason to ensure Obama's victory. I believe this will be our last chance to make a statement around the world and in the history books as Black Americas. Jesse Jackson and others like him are tearing Obama down and it just makes me so damn sad and angry. We won't get a second chance because the next minority with the power and ambition for the White House will be the Hispanics and they don't f**k around. Feel free to rip me to shreds now.[/quote] AND LET ALL THE PEOPLE SAY..............AMEN! I agree...great points[/quote] I agree. Some of us don't have the same drive as those who come to America looking for a new life. We have become complacent and make a lot of excuses as to why we Can't succeed instead of reasons why we CAN. I also feel that we should let our children know that their history is more than slavery and the Civil Rights movement. Maybe then they'll feel more empowered when faced with these crappy statistics that are shoved down their throats.
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My last comment was directed

My last comment was directed to Ms. 901 - something screwy happened w/ my post
FabLife2008's picture

I chose to watch the first

I chose to watch the first segment and I was highly disappointed. I don't know why I set myself to believe this "special" was for everyone's viewing when clearly it was for people who were not Black. Soleil is totally disconnected with Black people. I mean there is so much more to us than, "HIV/AIDS, unwed mothers, school dropouts, low test scores, poor, living in harsh conditions, etc." I mean what about me?! What about the people who work so hard? What about the Black people who are successful? WHAT ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE? I guarantee if showed a variety of Black people in different roles then we would seem like a normal people. Soleil's research was not even research. A small child who has never seen a Black person before in their life could have constructed this so called "special". Her material was the same thing that was talked about damn near everyday. Being that she's half Black I would think she would want to talk about people who represent her (people who work hard and are successful), but she --chose-- to make us all look like victims. I'm not a victim! I work so f*n hard and now because this bsh...wow excuse my language. It doesn't matter anymore. She lost all of my respect. All I can do is continue doing me. AS LONG AS I KNOW WHO I AM. Wow...Some of you say you would have liked to see and listen to how other people felt about Black people. Why? Why does it even matter any more? Some of you are so f*n naive and clueless. A Black woman did research on Black people and she doesn't have sh!t to show for it, but yet you wonder how other people feel about us. Take care of home first I say (only my opinion). Some of you don't even know your own culture. Some of you go as far as denying Black culture based off what non-Black people say about us b/c you're so ashamed and weak. I'm sorry... I just can't live letting other people's thoughts influence me. I live for me! I'm FREE! Our ancestors worked so hard and sacrificed to move from living under the majority. Meaning we established our own culture and some of you insultingly deny it. I mean at least, --at least--, acknowledge it. That's the least you can do. You don't have to like all parts of Black culture but at least acknowledge it. Isn't that the whole point of defining who you are? So disappointing to read some of these responses. And no...I'm not denying we have problems but who doesn't? Too many of us focus on White people too much. Be responsible. Not only for the choices we make but be responsible for --you--. Stop letting other people influence how you feel about being Black. Lets grow up and stop these petty a$s conversations about relaxed and natural hair that only divides us, puts real issues on the back burner, and lets talk about something else. (sigh) Anywho. It's my b-day. How is everyone doing today?
Lacey's picture

[quote comment="151565"]WHY

[quote comment="151565"]WHY ARE WE ALWAYS THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION? WHITE PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE SAME THINGS..WHAT MAKES US SO SERIOUS THAT IT HAS TO BE SERIES DONE SPECIFICALLY ON US? ACTUALLY ALL ETHNICITIES HAVE SOME TYPE OF STRUGGLE.MANY FOLKS HAVE THE PROBLEMS THEY HAVE BECAUSE OF THE CHOICES THEY MADE...IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN![/quote] I understand your point entirely. Of course there are individuals of every race who make poor choices and suffer the necessary consequences. However, the issue being addressed (hence the numerous statistics) is not that these hardships occur within all races (which we know that they do) but they occur at a proportionally much higher rate in the Black/African American community than it does in any other. Everyone knows that whites no doubt outnumber blacks in the United States, but when you separate these groups and examine crime, drop-out rates etc within each group, numbers do not and cannot lie. It is clear that there are various and numerous issues that exist within the black community that must be addressed. Though I believe that CNN had a good idea in mind with trying to out these issues, I really don't think that any new information or analysis was offered. Numbers and statistics are great (im glad you did your research) but they are completely pointless if no solution to said problems is offered. The history behind many of the successful blacks featured on the show was interesting no doubt, but a much more informative show would have been one that asked these educated individuals who break racist stereotypes their beliefs about what can and should be done to better the situation of "Blacks in America." Couple this overlook with CNN's numerous ads about employment at McDonald's (am i the only one that peeped that??), and only one thing can be taken away from this series. We as black folks must do better, and clearly we must do it our damn selves. Quit blaming the white man for whatever situations we're in. Granted in some instances ol massa and his offspring definitely must take some blame, but for the most part there MUST be a change in mentality and a GENUINE need to do better within out own communities. Ppl called Oprah a sell-out and all types of other names when she took her money and funding overseas (Africa) to start a school, but in actuality she cannot be blamed. There is a VERY different mentality between African American children and Black children overseas. It was made abundantly clear that these children (African) really and truly DESIRED self-betterment. Some of their home and family situations were unimaginable, and yet these children continuously yearned for a means out of their situations where others three times their age would have given up. What makes it so different within our own communities, where even the worst off child is better off than his/her African counterpart, that our children (for the most part) dont see the need for self-betterment and improvement. Yea you can blame media and hip-hop, white folk etc, but mentality change comes from home (both with-in our own four walls and in our communities.) It has been made abundantly clear that no such solution will be provided us so we must obviously take matters into our own hands. The problem seems so far gone that I honestly wouldnt even know where to begin, but even beginning to instill the right values, goals and desires within our babies at home would begin to remedy this situation. It seems for the most part that folks are letting media etc babysit their children, and when all that is being shown are stereotypical views of blacks what do we expect?? We gotta do better yall. . .
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[quote comment="152207"]Well

[quote comment="152207"]Well you know the shows were not directed at us and yes I believe they chose to do something like this now because we are about to have a black president. The people they choose to have speak out for the black community for the most part were not good representations. I was very disappointed in that regard. This should have been a show that went on for more than 2 hours over 2 days. A lot of people are giving cudos to Soledad for her efforts in making these show happen. Took her a year and the interviews lasted at least 3 hours and we only saw maybe 1-3 minutes for each person so we are missing out on a lot more info from those folks. Yes, the darkness and lightness of your skin as a black person does have an effect on how you are treated whether people want to admit it or not. No way would Obama even get seriously considered if he was his wife's complexion and we all need be to be really honest about that one. I wish the show would have brought about a solution segment. What can we all do to make things betters in these communities. How about we have so many well to do black people that if we just step back out of our own lives and reach out to some people in need, we would not have all these ills that cover so many of our neighbors. Build that grocery store so people don't have to travel an hour one way to get food. Put some medical facilities in place for people to be able to get screenings and assistance when needed. The money is there within our people. Stop being so selfish and dig deep in your pockets and make it happen![/quote] I just want to say one good thing about this show is it is making us think. Black people need to view themselves differently. Even if we don't fit into one of the categories that was presented on the show, we know someone who does. My Brother is a high school drop out who has did some time for dealing drugs, so it made me think of ways I can help him and his children so they don't become another number on the statistics chart.
Shamrock's picture

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[quote comment="151800"][quote comment="151753"](Get ready because I am going to say things you don't want to hear) The rest of world still doesn't understand why Black Americans haven't "figured it out." That's one reason why they are so fascinated with us. Jews will tell you that the Germans slaughtered millions of them and ran them out of Europe just 60 years ago. They came to America and were treated badly by the white establishment. As a community, they focused on justice, faith and education. Now, they are wealthiest minority in the USA. I know wealthy Haitians, Bahamians and Africans who live here, but won't allow their children to interact with American black children. A coworker from an impoverished country where there's constant war and famine told me once that, "Black Americans are born with all the resources in the world and they still behave like animals. They are lazy, violent and only complain." I wanted to slap her, but she had valid points. Foreign Blacks seem to be gaining ground in this country much faster than us. I have to read publications like Black Enterprise for inspiration these days because all you see are negative images of us on the news. What's troubling is there are everyday American Blacks (like me and you) who are doing amazing things in this country and no one knows a damn thing about it because it gets overshadowed by rappers acting like fools or O.J. Simpson. No wonder people are afraid of us. We need to do everything within reason to ensure Obama's victory. I believe this will be our last chance to make a statement around the world and in the history books as Black Americas. Jesse Jackson and others like him are tearing Obama down and it just makes me so damn sad and angry. We won't get a second chance because the next minority with the power and ambition for the White House will be the Hispanics and they don't f**k around. Feel free to rip me to shreds now.[/quote] HEEEEYYYYYYYYYY I'm a haitian!!!!!!!LOL[/quote] [quote comment="151654"]I'm sorry ya'll but as a well-educated single black woman who watched the entire two-part series I find this to be ignorant propaganda. The reporting was all over the place, no cohesion and more importantly no closure. I watched because CNN heavily advertised this year long report that was hard hitting. Reality is hidden for a reason and if you look deep enough you will see that the "threat" of Obama coming into office made for this rushed attempt to look at black people as less than when I for one can give you at least 40 in my circle who are killing it right now. By killing it I mean they have education (after high school), own property (more than 1), businesses, marriages, homes, etc... This was advertised and shown to the world as where black people are now. So before you go elect this black president take a look at this. We are all not ignorant and have cousins with bullets in their spine, who won't work, sell drugs, and didn't finish high school. I'm not stupid or blind these situations do exist but I'm just saying it is not my reality and CNN gave no light to my reality.. *stepping off my soapbox*[/quote] I do not give a flying fuck what Africans/Hatians think about us. They have the nerve to turn their nose up in disgust at us. Black Americans have NOTHING to be ashamed of, we have made incredible and impressive strides. MLK inspired the world and galvanized a nation - and created the Human Rights Movement, one where every oppressed demographic in the world models themselves after. We are also approximately 12% of this nation's population, can you tell me Africans are still oppressed in a continent where they are in most cases the majority? Hati is no stranger to unstable governments, faminie, and poverty either. Africans sold us into slavery like animals and then want to turn around and wonder why we act like animals?
FabLife2008's picture

[quote

[quote comment="151575"][quote comment="151555"]Shamrock, I agree..that would have been useful! Also, I know I will probably get attacked about this....why were the "professional successful" (those who climbed the corporate later --not speaking of the Harvard Grad gentleman) all of the lighter complexion? Not nick picking my boyfriend and I both picked up on it immediately. The Assistant Superintendent was good until it was all discredited in my opinion with the fact that his children are w/ white women. I believe parent set their children up to date outside their race..no matter how much they deny it. I would have told you they would do just that when they were in elementary. I knew for my own step brother. Self hatred is so real and sad. How ironic that the outcasted problem child brother didn't get to voice his feelings or opinions??? This could have been an 8 hr show and I still would have watched![/quote] That's when I knew that I was not gonna view the entire show. It had a one sided slant, and it was soooo predictable. They kept going back to MLK days and I thought it was supposed to be about 2008. Talking about crack and NO positive images of black men. That made me kinda sick. I don't care where you grew up, everybody has seen at least 1 episode of the Cosby Show! Not making light of the situation, but come on everyone has seen a image of a positive black man, I don't care who you are![/quote] They did have a large amount of fair skinned people being interviewed, but they did have a fair amount of darker people also. They had the minister (former crack addict), the missing young father who didn't show up on time for his daughter's B-day, his mother, step-father, brother, and Grandfather. I am not knocking your opinion though, because it is valid. I don't think the superintendent's children should be viewed differently because their significant other is white. I think the other son declined to be on camera. My Husband's counsin's wife is white, and we hang out together alot, and she get's discriminated against because of him. So it does go both ways. I will say that the series was good, but it did not open my eyes to anything I did not already know being a Black person. I want a town hall meeting with all races to discuss the issues of race and hate. Now that would be something to watch.
Shamrock's picture

Lets be realistic, all media

Lets be realistic, all media is controlled by the same 6 corporations. As long as CNN is owned by Time Warner (who also owns Essence, WB, AOL, TMZ ect.) and BET is owned by Viacom, who also owns MTV, VH1 and tons of other media outlets, will we ever really get a clear and unbiased picture of Black people or any other minority? You can put a Debra Lee in front and SAY that a Black women is running an entire network, but who really makes decisions? Old white men who are the majority stockholders, they have the most money invested in the network/newspaper/website/magazine so its their agenda of white supremacy that is seen, subtle or not. Why trust that they have our best interests in heart or that they really want to tell our "stories." Most times, these shows don't tell the story of the Black american, they tell the story of white people's perception of the Black american.
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